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Posted by SylentEcho on Fri, March 20th, 2015 at 16:56 - 8 Comments
 
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SylentEcho United Kingdom

 
Hi,

My friend is selling me his 3ds with a couple of games, but I have a question first before buying it.

Remember how the original DS and DSL had these flash carts called R4 (original) which would play just about everything and had a team that constantly made new kernels for them in order to play the new games?

Do we have something like that for the 3Ds? Would be able to download and play games that were released around 6-12 months ago? Like Street Fighter, Dragon Ball Z Heroes & other stuff like that?

Oh, and what about the 3DSXL?

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. :)

Thanks.


 
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sarkwalvein Argentina

  Fri, March 20th, 2015 at 20:35
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There is nothing as good and well maintained like in the DS era.
What you have today is only two options regarding flashcards: Gateway 3DS and Sky3DS.

Gateway 3DS would allow you to play games of any region as it overrides region lock, it would also let you use homebrew (that is not so prominent as in the DS era) and would you let do all kinds of hacks, as well as install eShop software and even normal games in the 3DS home menu.
But Gateway 3DS only works with 3DS systems that have firmware version 9.2 or below, and also requires some previous steps to work (eg. accessing a specific web page in the browser).
Sky3DS would only let you play in region games, no imports, no homebrew,  no eShop games. But it works in any firmware version up to date and doesn't require previous steps to work.

Also you have to take some precautions if you play online.

PS: What is your question regarding the 3DS XL?

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Nathan Slovenia

  Sat, March 21st, 2015 at 10:20
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To add to sarkwalvein's post, there also doesn't seem to be anything like the flashcard teams from the DS era, where they would all compete to be the first in getting something to work but everyone would be friendly. Now there is Gateway who bricked the consoles of users using a fake Gateway card.
 
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Subaru Poland

  Tue, March 31st, 2015 at 02:22
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also requires some previous steps to work (eg. accessing a specific web page in the browser).

There is an Android application that helps to do that stuff if we don't have normal network nearby (and probably even if we don't have any Wi-Fi/GSM access).
As far as I know Gateway can do on firmware 4.5-9.2 (9.2.0-20 to be precise), and emunand probably up to 9.2.0-20 as well.
About network play, not tested yet, some people including the creators of Gateway claim that network play works just fine.
Homebrew is accessible even with Cubic Ninja ROM (flip you Cubic Ninja high prices mwahahaha), maybe there is some other way, dunno.

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Now there is Gateway who bricked the consoles of users using a fake Gateway card.

I remember Acekard AKAIO had something similar, some kind of anti-fake-Acekard thing, not sure how much harm it was doing, but looking at the admin of AKAIO forums I would guess as freaking much as possible :3

Last thing about Gateway:
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as well as install eShop software and even normal games in the 3DS home menu.

To be honest I haven't figured that out yet, but yeah they say it's possible.
 
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sarkwalvein Argentina

  Tue, March 31st, 2015 at 03:49
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Subaru on Tue, March 31st, 2015 at 02:22 GMT  

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as well as install eShop software and even normal games in the 3DS home menu.

To be honest I haven't figured that out yet, but yeah they say it's possible.

It is not only just possible, but quite useful.
If you do this, you can take out your GW card and keep using the 3DS and changing betweenn games as much as you want.
With the GW card out the battery life increases significantly.
Also you can then use the card to boot GW mode in a second 3DS and play in both with only one GW card.

If you need help figuring out something related to this, let me know.







 
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Subaru Poland

  Tue, March 31st, 2015 at 20:26
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Thank you very much~
I will send you a PM about the problem :P
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With the GW card out the battery life increases significantly.

Ah! So I wasn't imagining things about my battery lasting shorter ._.
 
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SylentEcho United Kingdom

  Thu, April 2nd, 2015 at 14:36
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Thanks for all your help, fellas. :)

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Gateway 3DS would allow you to play games of any region as it overrides region lock, it would also let you use homebrew (that is not so prominent as in the DS era) and would you let do all kinds of hacks, as well as install eShop software and even normal games in the 3DS home menu.
But Gateway 3DS only works with 3DS systems that have firmware version 9.2 or below, and also requires some previous steps to work (eg. accessing a specific web page in the browser).
Sky3DS would only let you play in region games, no imports, no homebrew,  no eShop games. But it works in any firmware version up to date and doesn't require previous steps to work.
Thanks. Which one would you recommend? I think each game's version (PAL/NTSC) gets uploaded to the net right?

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Also you have to take some precautions if you play online.
Precautions for what exactly? Could the DS get bricked if something goes awry?

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To add to sarkwalvein's post, there also doesn't seem to be anything like the flashcard teams from the DS era, where they would all compete to be the first in getting something to work but everyone would be friendly. Now there is Gateway who bricked the consoles of users using a fake Gateway card.
That sucks! How come? Bricking the DS is such a d*cky thing to do, man.:(

Okay, I'm a little confused. I'm thinking I'll go in for Sky3ds, but I'm really just a noob. Could someone please help me decide which card is better for me? Any compatibility/other issues with these cards? Are the kernels coming around at regular intervals for these?
 
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sarkwalvein Argentina

  Sat, April 4th, 2015 at 08:34
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SylentEcho on Thu, April 2nd, 2015 at 14:36 GMT  
Thanks for all your help, fellas. :)

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Gateway 3DS would allow you to play games of any region as it overrides region lock, it would also let you use homebrew (that is not so prominent as in the DS era) and would you let do all kinds of hacks, as well as install eShop software and even normal games in the 3DS home menu.
But Gateway 3DS only works with 3DS systems that have firmware version 9.2 or below, and also requires some previous steps to work (eg. accessing a specific web page in the browser).
Sky3DS would only let you play in region games, no imports, no homebrew,  no eShop games. But it works in any firmware version up to date and doesn't require previous steps to work.
Thanks. Which one would you recommend? I think each game's version (PAL/NTSC) gets uploaded to the net right?

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Also you have to take some precautions if you play online.
Precautions for what exactly? Could the DS get bricked if something goes awry?

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To add to sarkwalvein's post, there also doesn't seem to be anything like the flashcard teams from the DS era, where they would all compete to be the first in getting something to work but everyone would be friendly. Now there is Gateway who bricked the consoles of users using a fake Gateway card.
That sucks! How come? Bricking the DS is such a d*cky thing to do, man.:(

Okay, I'm a little confused. I'm thinking I'll go in for Sky3ds, but I'm really just a noob. Could someone please help me decide which card is better for me? Any compatibility/other issues with these cards? Are the kernels coming around at regular intervals for these?

I would personally go with Gateway 3DS, if you have a system with an adequate firmware version.
I really enjoy playing out of region games on my 3DS (specially Japanese games that weren't released in the west), but it depends on what you want.

It is very difficult to brick your 3DS, but if you start playing with your SYSNAND, installing weird CIAs into it or deleting system files, I suppose you will be able to brick it. Do your weird things in EMUNAND only.
If you go online with a inappropriate game (ROM with public header) you can be banned from online gaming, up to now the bans only lasted one or two weeks anyway.

If you want things to be simpler, get the Sky3DS, but you will not be able to use it for region locked games or eShop games, and you will be more limited in general regarding what you can do.
About compatibility, I think both Sky3DS and Gateway have 100% compatibility.
Sky3DS is not updateable, if it gets blocked it is gone for good. The team releases new versions of the tool and templates used to copy games into the SD card anyway.
Gateway3DS is updateable, but it gets updated once every lunar eclipse, it also is blocked right now in firmwares greater than 9.2.
 
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SylentEcho United Kingdom

  Mon, April 6th, 2015 at 17:01
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Thanks for your reply, sarkwalvein. You've cleared up all of my doubts. :)
 
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