Nintendo DSi Release List new forum section and release list
BAHAMUT dumped the first DSi enhanced card today and this has brought the need for a new release list, specifically Nintendo DSi releases. Ok ill start by saying that from a retail perspective these game look just the same as standard Nintendo DS games (as far as the cover design goes). There seems to be nothing to separate DSi Enhanced software on shelf from standard DS software, not even an official icon like the Wi-Fi or Pay to Play games have.
The promotion of DSi features seems to be left up to the company developing the software. These DSi Enhanced games may look as if they should be listed in the standard DS release list, this is where i bring up the main reason for a separate listing. DSi Enhanced software comes with a DSi serial number. To put this into perspective, yes the boxart states Nintendo DS but all standard DS software comes branded with the serial # NTR. DSi Enhanced games on the other hand, (and most likely DSi exclusive games) use TWL for the serial code. TWL would seem to indicate a DSi game and should really be it's own separate list. everything DSi related uses TWL from the DSi itself (TWL-001) To the DSi battery (TWL-003).
As for DSi Exclusive software using the TWL serial is purely speculation on my part. However this will probably be the case, or we hope so for the listing sake. I hope this post may have explained the reasons for us going with a separate list for titles branded with the TWL serial and answers any questions you may have had regarding the matter. If you would like to ask or suggest anything feel free to post here.
Nintendo DS models
Nintendo DS (NTR-001) uses standard ds software (NTR) Nintendo DS Lite (USG-001) uses standard ds software (NTR) Nintendo DSi (TWL-001) uses standard ds (NTR), dsi enhanced and dsi exclusive software (TWL)
This doesn’t make much sense to me if its DSi enhanced but runs fine on the standard DS then it should be in the DS section. But if it’s a DSi exclusive game then I agree it belongs in it’s own section, after all there are millions of DS users & having them constantly checking the Dsi section for enhanced games is going to be a pain.
i understand what you're saying but from a list point of view this is more about serial number separation than system separation, and we can always put in the notes of the ds/dsi games if it works on a standard Nintendo DS
edit: We are working on something now, maybe like an icon or something to show its also compatible with a standard DS. You will be able to filter these releases in the list so you can just see a listing of the ds/dsi enhanced games all together
This post has been edited by Triforce, Sat, June 27th, 2009 at 17:37
I agree with triforce, DSi enhanced games and exclusive ones, should be listed in a seperate release list.
The only drawback i see: - If it works on DS, ppl will expect it to be in the DS list, regardless of serial
Possible solution is, to add it in the DS list AND the DSi list (each it's own number in the seperate lists (Example 5689 - blah whatever (DS)(US).nds 0005 - blah whatever (DSi)(US).nds) (ds) and (dsi) naming means, it's enhanced and does work in a normal DS so it's in the other list to, ds for normal ds, dsi for dsi
On a site note: DSi exclusive games should have another extension then "nds" "dsi or ndi, or whatever"
This post has been edited by DjoeN, Sat, June 27th, 2009 at 20:53
Ok now i'm slightly confused by the serial code, the card and box say TWL but the actual game code indicates NTR, or least through the application i just used.
For now im going to leave this one in the dsi list, but enhanced games could possibly be shifted to standard ds list in the future. I'm still unsure on what route to take, specially after seeing NTR in the game code for this one.
Never mind i know next to nothing about how these apps generate the serial, it seems that NTR gets added automatically, or so i was just told. So the only proof is the serial on the card sticker. Ok then these release will stay in the DSi list
This post has been edited by Triforce, Sat, June 27th, 2009 at 22:38
Are there DSi game ripping instructions anywhere? I've been trying to rip CLASSIC WORD GAMES (enhanced for DSi) and the regular methods have failed.
Do you mean dumping? You can try to use Rudolph's Wifi tool or Rudolph's Slot-2 tool which can be found in our download center. If you are going to use the Wifi tool, you must download small-ftp (I always use it when I dump Nintendo DS games). You can download small-ftp here. So extract the zip archive somewhere and run the exe file. Now go to Settings >> General and change FTP-port to 8080. When that's done you go to Advanced and tick off 'use local IP'. Now go to users and add a new one by clicking 'new'. Choose an own login and password. After you did that, choose the directory where you want to have the nds file (normally on your hard-drive (C:)). Permissions are LRW. So you're done now. Open the ini file which is in the folder of Rudolph's Wifi tool and edit it. The login, password and port must be the same as the ones on the ftp. Save it, start small-ftp, start the nds file on your flashcard and choose the option you want. Don't ask me how to do it with a Slot-2, because I don't have one.
I think the different listing is a good idea for other reasons. What if someone is looking for those special games that have the nifty DSi stuff? They'll have a lot of trouble going through all of the 4000 or so DS games for that one game that lets them take pictures of themselves.
As for the serial number thing, even if it does sound like a safe bet, maybe a simple warning in the nfo file by the dumpers would do the trick. They HAVE to have the game before dumping it anyways.